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    Rate That Moveset!

    Post by SilentVerse on Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:39 pm

    This thread is for people with creative movesets that they want to share.

    Rules:

    1) Post a description.
    -Try to avoid just posting a set with absolutely no explanation, leaving us all to be baffled as to what exactly you're aiming to do. It doesn't have to be long: just put something.
    2) No flaming.
    -Some sets, admittably, aren't done very well by certain pokemon. They may have a superior set that does the same thing, or maybe some other pokemon. You are allowed to critique users that post such sets, but please don't go as far as to insult their inteligence... and that goes the same for the poster of the set, as well. Be willing to take criticism: if you post a set here, seek to improve it, not show off.
    3) This is mostly theoretical; even if your own Pokemon with that set doesn't have it's desired nature or is EV'd wrong, post your dream set here.
    4) Don't use hacked sets. Stick with attacks that Pokemon learn. For example, don't put a set for Cascoon that has Hyper Beam, Blizzard, Thunder and Fire Blast, since it doesn't learn those moves.
    5)-Sets should have the following information:

    -Pokemon Name
    -Item (ideally, each Pokemon you're using should have an item, unless you have no item for a specific purpose.
    -Ability (mainly for Pokemon with two abilities)
    -Preferred Nature(s) (If you don't really care which nature it is, you don't have to put this. However, for more information on what natures do, check http://www.smogon.com/dp/natures/ or http://www.serebii.net/games/natures.shtml)
    -EVs (If you don't want to put EVs, that's fine if you don't know what they are. If you want to put EVs though, check out
    http://www.serebii.net/games/evs.shtml)
    -Four Moves.

    So, an example of this would be:

    Masquerain @ Life Orb
    Intimidate / Timid Nature
    EVs: 4 Defence / 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed
    -Agility
    -Hydro Pump
    -Air Slash
    -Baton Pass */ Energy Ball

    *Slashes can be used on sets to show that you can use another move in that spot if you wish.



    I'll start:

    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Marvel Scale / Calm Nature
    EVs: 252 HP / 200 Defence / 58 Special Defence
    -Surf
    -Recover
    -Psych Up / Haze
    -Mirror Coat

    This set is quite gimmicky, but it's cool if you can predict your opponent's next move. Basically, come in on a Special Attacker. If the Special Attacker uses a move like Calm Mind, use Psych Up or Haze to even the fields. Then, when you predict said Pokemon will use it's Special Attack, use Mirror Coat for some nice damage. Recover also lets you do this once again, though it's unlikely that the opponent will fall for it once more.
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    Post by Hero on Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:16 pm

    10/10

    Charizard@salac berry
    Blaze/Mild nature
    Evs:230 S.attack/230 attack/52 defense
    -flamethrower
    -air slash
    -earthquake
    -dragon claw
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    Post by shadowspark2 on Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:51 pm

    Where's Blast burn? It's a good last attack kind of thing. I'm not gonna put a moveset, cause I don't really play pokemon after I finish the main game.(My wi-fi is WPA and DS is only compatible with WEP)
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    Re: Rate That Moveset!

    Post by Hero on Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:52 am

    blastburn,come on.Moves like that are what i try to ignore and here is another

    Skarmory@adamant
    No berry
    Evs:250 attack/200 defense/62 speed
    -steel wing
    -ariel ace
    -iron defense
    -agilty
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    Post by SilentVerse on Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:04 pm

    Nice set! It looks like it could be quite effective. I have a few suggestions though:

    -What is the point of your EV spread? It seems kinda... arbitrary. I personally think something like 252 HP / 252 Atk or such would be much simpler and better, unless there's a specific point to the amount of speed you're running.
    -How about Leftovers or Life Orb as its held item?
    -I personally think Brave Bird or Drill Peck would be better than Aerial Ace. Aerial Ace is pretty weak, as is Skarmory's base attack, so I think the high base power of Brave Bird or Drill Peck would help.
    -Maybe Swords Dance over Iron Defense? It would make your Skarmory more offensive.

    Other than that, your set looks great!



    Mothim @ Petaya Berry
    Swarm / Modest Nature
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed
    -Substitute
    -Bug Buzz
    -Tailwind
    -Hidden Power Ground / Shadow Ball / Air Slash

    Basically, keep using Substitute until you activate your Petaya Berry. Then, use Tailwind to boost your Speed for the next two turns. Proceed to heavily damage things with your Swarm boosted Bug Buzz off of Mothim's now excellent Special Attack stat. The last move provides coverage and determines what will wall you. Hidden Power Ground makes you walled by Ghosts with Levitate, though you won't be walled by Steels while Shadow Ball does the opposite. Air Slash can provide secondary STAB, though Bug Buzz will generally be stronger against even Pokemon that resist it.
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    Re: Rate That Moveset!

    Post by Hydrocannon2727 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:29 pm

    SilentVerse wrote:Nice set! It looks like it could be quite effective. I have a few suggestions though:

    -What is the point of your EV spread? It seems kinda... arbitrary. I personally think something like 252 HP / 252 Atk or such would be much simpler and better, unless there's a specific point to the amount of speed you're running.
    -How about Leftovers or Life Orb as its held item?
    -I personally think Brave Bird or Drill Peck would be better than Aerial Ace. Aerial Ace is pretty weak, as is Skarmory's base attack, so I think the high base power of Brave Bird or Drill Peck would help.
    -Maybe Swords Dance over Iron Defense? It would make your Skarmory more offensive.

    Other than that, your set looks great!



    Mothim @ Petaya Berry
    Swarm / Modest Nature
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed
    -Substitute
    -Bug Buzz
    -Tailwind
    -Hidden Power Ground / Shadow Ball / Air Slash

    Basically, keep using Substitute until you activate your Petaya Berry. Then, use Tailwind to boost your Speed for the next two turns. Proceed to heavily damage things with your Swarm boosted Bug Buzz off of Mothim's now excellent Special Attack stat. The last move provides coverage and determines what will wall you. Hidden Power Ground makes you walled by Ghosts with Levitate, though you won't be walled by Steels while Shadow Ball does the opposite. Air Slash can provide secondary STAB, though Bug Buzz will generally be stronger against even Pokemon that resist it.
    9/10 I think there could be another HP other than Ground, and maybe you drop Substitute for Shadow Ball since the most you could do with a Pokemon like Mothim is keep it alive a few extra turns.
    How's this?:
    Dragonite@Choice Specs
    EV's:Atk52, Spd28, SpAtk14
    -Draco Meteor
    -Aqua Tail
    -Thunder Punch
    -Wing Attack
    This is a typical Physical Sweep Dragonite, with Draco Meteor to get rid of those bulky Dragon-Types, then taking advantage of it's Physical build to ignore the Special drop and continue sweeping, but has Choice Specs in case of two or more Dragon-Types, resulting in a casualty of this sweeper. It also has Thunder Punch to take down bulky Water-Types, and the possible Ice Beam Dewgong or Lapras. Also, Wing Attack for the Fighting-Type Thunder/Ice Punch carriers. Then, Aqua Tail to take out those Stone Edge carriers like Tyrannitar.





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    Post by Hero on Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:25 pm

    5/10 needs way more evs.Also,i suggest you change draco meteor to dragon rush and replace thunder punch,with fire punch with those two alone covers all it advantages(except for rock)aqua tail is fine for that but i suggest replacing that with waterfall,for a chance to hit and cause a flinch(spelling?)wing attack is good but i would rather that it learns fly

    Raikou@Zap plate
    mild
    Evs:252 special attack/200 speed/60 hp
    thunderbolt
    aura sphere
    weather ball
    reflect (reffering to the special event one)

    this raikou is a special sweeper.with the zap plate and the the sp.attack evs(also raikou normally has a good sp.attack),and stab,thunderbolt can be a threating move and the other moves (aura sphere and weather ball)makes a good coverage in the move set which sp.attack also.Reflect makes up for the fact the mild natures lowers the defense stat
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    Post by SilentVerse on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:00 pm

    8/10. It's not bad, but a couple of things could be changed to make it better:

    -The event Raikou comes with a Rash nature if I recall correctly, so yeah.
    -Why not just max the Special Attack and Speed EVs? I'm not sure what the HP is for...
    -Finally, Weather Ball should be replaced by something else if you don't have Rain Dance in the last slot. Without Weather, Weather Ball is only a 50 Base Power Normal Type move, so it's less than optimal. If you could get it, something like Hidden Power Grass or Ice would be better in my opinion. If you replace Weather Ball, the last slot should be Calm Mind to boost Raikou's lowered Special Defense and its strong Special Attack.

    Aerodactyl @ Leftovers
    Pressure / Jolly Nature
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 Special Defence / 252 Speed
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Whirlwind
    -Roar

    First off, this is an incredibly gimmicky set but its quite humorous if you get lucky with Sleep Talk. Basically, use Rest as soon as you can, then use Sleep Talk. Sleep Talk will pick Whirlwind or Roar 2/3 times, so you have a good chance of forcing the opponent out. Since Sleep Talk ignores the negative priority of these moves, you can simply spam Sleep Talk and continue to force the opposing Pokemon out, as few Pokemon are faster than Aerodactyl.

    Naturally, this set needs Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes to be effective, as well as Sandstorm to boost Aerodactyl's Special Defence. Now, this might sound like a lot, but since these are all almost necessities on a stall team, it's not too bad. With Stealth Rock and 3 layers of Spikes, you deal 37% to them as they switch in, so if you can get lucky with Sleep Talk, you'll find that you're wearing down the opponent quite quickly.
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    Re: Rate That Moveset!

    Post by Hydrocannon2727 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:53 pm

    hero44 wrote:5/10 needs way more evs.Also,i suggest you change draco meteor to dragon rush and replace thunder punch,with fire punch with those two alone covers all it advantages(except for rock)aqua tail is fine for that but i suggest replacing that with waterfall,for a chance to hit and cause a flinch(spelling?)wing attack is good but i would rather that it learns fly

    Raikou@Zap plate
    mild
    Evs:252 special attack/200 speed/60 hp
    thunderbolt
    aura sphere
    weather ball
    reflect (reffering to the special event one)

    this raikou is a special sweeper.with the zap plate and the the sp.attack evs(also raikou normally has a good sp.attack),and stab,thunderbolt can be a threating move and the other moves (aura sphere and weather ball)makes a good coverage in the move set which sp.attack also.Reflect makes up for the fact the mild natures lowers the defense stat
    He's Specked for a reason, to boost Draco Meteor without having to spam it.





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    Post by SilentVerse on Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:03 pm

    Except it's not really worth using Specs to boost only one move, while locking you into all your other moves at the same time. Personally, I would rather use Life Orb, so you have the freedom to switch moves while getting a sizable power boost.
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    Post by Hydrocannon2727 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:20 pm

    SilentVerse wrote:Except it's not really worth using Specs to boost only one move, while locking you into all your other moves at the same time. Personally, I would rather use Life Orb, so you have the freedom to switch moves while getting a sizable power boost.
    I like your idea a lot, so i'll think on that. I'll need my Action Replay, 'cause I do not wanna work for a Life Orb, and personally, I don't a single professional player who doesn't hack their items.





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    Post by FCSNAKE on Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:30 am

    kingdra with scope lens
    and ability sniper
    adamant 252atk, 252 spd, 6hp
    dragon dance
    waterfall
    outrage
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    Post by Okami on Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:03 pm

    this isnt very great, but

    Umbreon
    Item: Blackglasses
    Quick Attack
    Dark Pulse
    Psychic
    Moonlight


    Quick attack is usefull for either the focus slash, then endeavor and quick attack strategy, and if the pokemon is nearly finished. Then dark pulse and psychic for variety and weakness, and then moonlight for healing. Not the best, but ive destroyed hydro, skittles, and some others with it.



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    Post by FCSNAKE on Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:55 am

    well you sound strong maybe well battle one day..



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    Post by Okami on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:37 am

    yeah. i just play with my favorite pokemon, no strategies



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    Post by FCSNAKE on Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:45 pm

    well my favorite pokemon are my strategy lol



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    Post by Okami on Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:25 pm

    same. i just make strategies for my fav pokemon



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    Post by Hydrocannon2727 on Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:29 pm

    Stay on Topic





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    Post by FCSNAKE on Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:32 pm

    well i guess that is a good moveset but i would say change quick attack but its your choice



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    Post by Applejack on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:10 pm

    my poemon
    charizard
    focus sash
    blast burn
    mega kick
    rock climb
    rock smash

    the HMs will be changed.
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    Post by FCSNAKE on Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:01 am

    i say tottaly replace rock climb and rock smash..
    8/10..
    wut about my kingdra?
    item scope lens
    ability sniper
    adamant 252atk, 252 spd, 6hp
    dragon dance
    waterfall
    outrage
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    Post by Hero on Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:22 pm

    considering its attack,i would take away outrage and replace it with dragon rush.
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    Post by Hydrocannon2727 on Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:04 am

    hero44 wrote:5/10 needs way more evs.Also,i suggest you change draco meteor to dragon rush and replace thunder punch,with fire punch with those two alone covers all it advantages(except for rock)aqua tail is fine for that but i suggest replacing that with waterfall,for a chance to hit and cause a flinch(spelling?)wing attack is good but i would rather that it learns fly

    Raikou@Zap plate
    mild
    Evs:252 special attack/200 speed/60 hp
    thunderbolt
    aura sphere
    weather ball
    reflect (reffering to the special event one)

    this raikou is a special sweeper.with the zap plate and the the sp.attack evs(also raikou normally has a good sp.attack),and stab,thunderbolt can be a threating move and the other moves (aura sphere and weather ball)makes a good coverage in the move set which sp.attack also.Reflect makes up for the fact the mild natures lowers the defense stat
    Not so much EV spread, considering it's BL/Uber for God's sake, not some OU cheap Dragon like Garchomp. Also, two turn moves are a turn down for one reason:When you use it, your opponent has a chance to switch out, which is considerably bad, if it were a Steel-Type like Magnezone, or Metagross, which could easily bring down Dragonite. Plus, with STAB, Wing Attack is rather powerful.





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    Post by FCSNAKE on Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:11 pm

    hero44 wrote:considering its attack,i would take away outrage and replace it with dragon rush.
    yeah but outrage is strong too and it wont miss alot

    Hydrocannon2727 wrote:
    hero44 wrote:5/10 needs way more evs.Also,i suggest you change draco meteor to dragon rush and replace thunder punch,with fire punch with those two alone covers all it advantages(except for rock)aqua tail is fine for that but i suggest replacing that with waterfall,for a chance to hit and cause a flinch(spelling?)wing attack is good but i would rather that it learns fly

    Raikou@Zap plate
    mild
    Evs:252 special attack/200 speed/60 hp
    thunderbolt
    aura sphere
    weather ball
    reflect (reffering to the special event one)

    this raikou is a special sweeper.with the zap plate and the the sp.attack evs(also raikou normally has a good sp.attack),and stab,thunderbolt can be a threating move and the other moves (aura sphere and weather ball)makes a good coverage in the move set which sp.attack also.Reflect makes up for the fact the mild natures lowers the defense stat
    Not so much EV spread, considering it's BL/Uber for God's sake, not some OU cheap Dragon like Garchomp. Also, two turn moves are a turn down for one reason:When you use it, your opponent has a chance to switch out, which is considerably bad, if it were a Steel-Type like Magnezone, or Metagross, which could easily bring down Dragonite. Plus, with STAB, Wing Attack is rather powerful.
    hey dont call garchomp cheap!! Evil or Very Mad lol!



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